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Luck Stats in Early Role-Playing Games

It may seem strange for a character to have a Luck stat in a game that already determines outcomes of events through dice that generate random results. Why do you need a luck score? Isn’t luck a matter of dice rolls?

The answer is yes, it is, but Luck stats do interesting and useful things.

To be lucky in any role-playing game, the numbers you need to roll against are determined in advance to move the story through one dilemma to the next through the dice. When you made your character, you may have determined stats via preliminary dice rolls that fix parameters for subsequent dice rolls. Or maybe you made your character by distributing points to stats, hedging your bets on what you want to roll dice for, and maximizing the likelihood that you’ll succeed in doing the things you want your character to do most.

Either way, your odds of success are usually linked to things on your character record sheet that you determined beforehand, which represent your odds of success in different capabilities.

But what about those events in the story of the game that do not clearly depend on your descriptive stats like strength, intelligence, constitution, dexterity, charisma, or your skills, your ability to scale sheer surfaces, your ability to hear noises through old doors, or whatever other explicit and implicit stats you have? What do you roll to avoid an impersonal hazard in which character volition or ability plays no real part? Did a vine happen to be present for you to drag yourself from the quicksand? Did you manage to gasp the air before the billow of poison gas surrounded you? Were you standing on the spot where the chandelier fell? Did you fall backwards onto one of the spikes or between them?

The Referee could just invent odds by fiat and roll. The Referee explains that the trap hits you with a poisoned dart on a 1, 2, or 3 on 1D6. You just wait to see if the Referee clobbers you for going into the adventure according to the odds that were set arbitrarily in advance or invented on the spot. As the player, you are passive. The impersonal bad things either happen to your character or pass by. The player is just a spectator, and the player character is a victim, in these situations when the Referee decides.

Luck stats address this problem. Luck rolls put the outcome of impersonal game hazards in hands of the player, whose dice results determine the results of these kinds of situations: avoid hazard or not? Instead of sitting passively, waiting for a judgment by the Referee who rolls the dice in view or not, or just makes the call to hurt your character or not, the player rolls the dice on his or her own in the hope of avoiding the impersonal threat, or getting a break, out of sheer luck. The player is gambling with fortune, not waiting to be stung by Referee decision. It’s about the feeling of taking a risk oneself, instead of opposition by the Referee who is supposed to be impartial.

Some Referees have the players roll for the occurrence of Wandering Monsters. The transfer of dice to the hands of the players for such events has an effect on the player’s experience of the game similar to that of a Luck stat.

The Luck stat is your good friend when you are the Referee. You do not need to make up arbitrary odds for random or unexpected events when you can just tell players to test their Luck stat, for which the odds are inherent to the character affected. Players whose characters get a lucky break through a Luck stat feel that it is deserved, not Referee favoritism.

Saving Throws as Luck Tests

The original Luck stats were D&D’s saving throw scores in 1974. They were not called Luck, but that’s at least partially what they are, in effect. The only character stats involved in determining saving throw numbers in old D&D are class and level (number of hit dice), the most primitive and fundamental stats in that game. The first saving throws therefore combine skill (class and level) with pure luck in their concept.

Saving throws entered D&D through its wargame roots. It was a mechanic to avoid instant death for important characters by simulating the sorts of heroic breaks that heroes and powerful entities are expected to have in fiction. The fighting man somehow leaps out of the way of a blast of dragon fire. The cleric turns her eyes away just before locking gazes with Medusa. Failing these rolls often meant instant death and leaving the game, at least temporarily, so the stakes were high, but the game’s fun was enhanced by allowing that player to attempt a saving roll to create one last chance to save the day. Otherwise, the Referee just says, “You turn the corner and... whoops, you see a Medusa! You’re petrified. The end.”

As a boy, I was boggled by the saving throw charts in my first D&D book (Basic D&D by Moldvay). The arrangement of the numbers seemed arbitrary, as they still seem to me today, and I wondered what the game’s designers were thinking. Why can my character resist deadly poison on a 15 instead of 13? Why does going up a level make me more immune to poison? Who made these numbers up? Also, the names of the saving throws did not correspond to the things that happened frequently in the game, either. Save versus Death Rays? How often do you encounter death rays?

The only plausible explanation I have seen for D&D saving throws, and the rationale that may have lurked behind them, comes from DM David. You can read it here.

Luck instead of saving throws

The first wave of D&D players, using the 1974 edition, experienced a combination of addictive thrill at the new kind of entertainment mixed with confused dissatisfaction with the shambles of theoriginal  rules and their nearly incoherent presentation.

Immediately, gamers designed new systems meant to turn the clunky and unclear features of D&D into something that functioned better.

Tunnels & Trolls, published in 1975, gets too little credit as an extraordinary early re-envisioning of what simpler and clearer rules could do for dungeon adventures. Among the innovations, Ken St. Andre and friends designed a new kind of saving throw.

The Wisdom score was not replicated, and there were no Clerics, but a new Luck stat was added alongside Strength, Intelligence, etc.

The Luck stat was the basis for the T&T saving throw system, replacing a large and complicated arbitrary chart of numbers versus odd effects with a unified mechanic applying to all characters. In T&T, whenever your character encountered an impersonal hazard, from death rays to traps, you could make a Luck saving throw to avoid or minimize it. The original rule was that the deeper in the dungeon your character delved, the harder the Luck save became, whether it was to avoid a trap or the ill effects of some magic or something else. On the first level of a dungeon, take [20 minus Luck] and roll that number or higher on 2D6. Doubles add and re-roll. If you match or beat the target, you are Lucky. If not, ouch. Every deeper level in the dungeon adds five to the target. For example, on level 2, you need to beat [25 minus Luck]. Traps and hazards get trickier the deeper you go, but stats, including Luck, are raised as your character gains levels of experience (contrary to D&D, in which stats change little if ever). Raising stats is, actually, the main effect of character level gains in T&T, where high stats are the mark of advanced characters and more meaningful than character level itself.

A high Luck score also improves odds in combat, along with high Strength and Dexterity.

This was the first role-playing game to have a Luck stat as such. It worked by simplifying a complex saving throw system into something that could be grasped instantly but that also depended on a mysterious personal characteristic: how favored your character is by fortune. It could be a mixture of quick reflexes and divine favor and who knows what else, but it sure helped to be lucky.

Call of Cthulhu

The excellent investigative horror game Call of Cthulhu (1981) was based on the rules developed for RuneQuest (1978) abstracted as the genre-neutral rule set Basic RolePlaying (1980). CoC included several innovations that had a major influence on subsequent games. The best known of them is the Sanity stat, which had its own mechanics and was derived from the core stat Power (representing one’s magical and psychic strength and willpower), determined by 3D6.

Luck was another secondary stat based on the Power stat. Power x 5 equals starting Sanity, but it also equals Luck. You tested Luck as a percentile score with D100 whenever there was need for arbitration over impersonal events. Did anybody get hit by the falling roof shingles? Did you step on a crumbly surface or solid surface? Roll vs Luck to find out.

I used Luck a fair bit when I ran Call of Cthulhu over several years.

Fighting Fantasy Gamebooks and Advanced Fighting Fantasy

In the UK, Ian Livingston and Steve Jackson (not the American one) published the first Fighting Fantasy Gamebook in 1982, Warlock of Firetop Mountain. Its success led to a long series of fun books on the same pattern. These choose-your-own-adventures with minimal randomly-generated stats for your solo character and dice-rolling for combat were popular and created a large fan base. I was one of the early players in the USA. I loved them, especially Steve Jackson’s wonderful Sorcery! quartet (1983-1985).

The spare FF game mechanics are manifestly inspired by those of Tunnels & Trolls. Combat is a contest of opposed rolls as in T&T, rather than a series of alternating blows as in D&D and most other RPGs. There is also a Luck stat. Luck, in FF, is one of the most important features of your character, because there has to be a way to arbitrate impersonal hazards especially in a game without a Referee.

The brilliant innovation here is that your Luck can run out, like Sanity in CoC. Roll 2D6 against Luck. Instead of 2D6 to match or exceed a number, though, you roll equal to or under the character’s Luck score. Whether you are lucky or not, every time you Test Your Luck, the Luck score drops by one, making the next Luck roll riskier.

In T&T, the deeper you go into the dungeon, the harder Luck saves become. In FF, this is mirrored by a gradual attrition of Luck as the adventure moves along. Take one too many risks, make one too many incautious moves, and fate will catch up with you. But sometimes bravery or beneficent divine forces will restore a Luck point.

The Fighting Fantasy gamebooks led to a spin-off full role-playing game system, beginning with Dungeoneer (1989), the inception of the Advanced Fighting Fantasy system. I never saw these books for sale anywhere in game stores in the USA, although it was apparently popular in the UK. The FF Luck system is completely intact in AFF. The main change is that, with continuing characters, Luck is restored back to the full amount between adventures, and experience can even raise your Luck score.

When I started running role-playing games for my kids in the last three years, the second system we used (after Hero Kids) was Advanced Fighting Fantasy in the second edition by Graham Bottley (2011). I admit that I am quite dissatisfied by the poor editing, sloppy presentation, and cost of the AFF2e books and its supplements for what you get. It’s a shame, because the system is great at its core. My kids and I had fun with it, and it inspired me to design my ruleset, which I am play-testing with them now.

Little did I know then that there was another spin-off of AFF already published: Troika! (2017). Here we see the same system reconfigured for weird fantasy in the vein of Terry Gilliam films or “gonzo” “OSR” science-fantasy adventures. It includes the same Luck stat mechanics.

What T&T and AFF have in common (besides a 2D6 Luck roll based on a core character stat by that name) is the sense of pushing your Luck as you go. In T&T this manifests as increasingly difficult Luck Saves the deeper you go. In AFF it’s literally a diminishing resource as your Luck score drains away.

Imagine that after every time you made a saving throw in old editions of D&D, the next saving throw was at a cumulative -1 until the end of the adventure. This might mirror the wonderful effect of rising suspense that the FF Luck system generates.

In Fighting Fantasy, players can voluntarily Test their Luck. Success gives an edge in a round of combat (just as Luck gives an edge in T&T combat, but by a different mechanic). Players can deliberately spend Luck and use it up in this way. Some other games soon adopted the spendable Luck points as a mechanic.

As I mentioned, Call of Cthulhu used a static Luck score, although I have read that by the Seventh Edition of CoC (2014), percentile Luck points can be spent to improve chances of success on other rolls, and then slowly earned back again. Luck thus becomes a diminishing resource if you rely on it, as in Fighting Fantasy.

Luck as meta-game credit to get out of fatal trouble

Other games adopted the mechanic whereby luck is effectively a meta-game credit that players have. That is, they drop the idea of a Luck stat against which you roll the dice, but they keep something like Luck as points you can spend. For example, in Warhammer Fantasy Role-Playing (1986), at least in the first edition (the only one I know well), characters have Fate Points. You only have a few, but you can spend one to alter a dire negative outcome and save your character’s life. Fate Points slowly accrue upon great successes in the game, and you spend them only when in desperate need.

In this way, WFRP’s Fate Points resemble the use of voluntary Tests of Luck in Fighting Fantasy, though they are each much more powerful than a Test of Luck in the latter.

I am sure that other games have copied this, but I got rid of most of my game books long ago and I don’t remember other examples.

EDIT 7/25: I just remembered that the James Bond 007 role-playing game of 1983 introduced Hero Points, which are somewhat like Fate Points. The idea was to permit characters to get away with cinematic feats. You burn them up to assist in success, and you are rewarded Hero Points for successful play. I'm sure that other games had features like this, too. If you know of one from before 1983, let me know.

Luck recharging in cycles of real time

GURPS (1st ed. 1986) includes a Luck trait that you can buy through the point system, GM permitting. It lets you roll three times for one outcome and take the best result. The meta-game nature of the trait is explicit in that the player can use this once per hour of game play (not of in-game time). Later editions allow this to be scaled up to “super” levels for games in which that is appropriate, so that it can be used more frequently in real time with a bigger character point investment (every half hour, every ten minutes). Unlike WFRP's Fate Points or other versions of meta-game credits, this is a personal trait that is expended but returns automatically in real time.

Overview and back to D&D

Luck traits evolved out of wargaming saving throws to avoid instant death. Luck as a stat has been around in role-playing games since 1975, practically the beginning of the hobby. It puts the action of play related to impersonal hazards into the player’s hands, engaging players in the random determination of their character’s fate, and it frees the Referee from making some arbitrary judgment calls. Often it is used as a diminishing resource, and various means exist for replenishing Luck stats such as finishing an adventure, reward for success, in-game divine boon, or passage of real-world play time.

D&D never developed a real Luck stat. Its players have tended to want to preserve its core features while minimizing innovation, and the saving throw system evolved in a different direction. In the Fifth Edition, you can have “proficiency in saving throws” granted by your character class, based on certain core stats. This means that core character stat bonuses are added to your saving throws. Basing saving throws on potentially any of the core character stats is an old innovation, as in other early games like The Fantasy Trip (1977-1980, with its ST, DX, and IQ saving throws) and later early editions of Tunnels & Trolls (which allow saves versus Dexterity, Strength, Constitution, etc., as well as Luck). Inspiration dice in 5e also can act like weak versions of Luck points in other games, giving a character a one-time expendable meta-game advantage as a reward for good play or the like. For players who are wedded to D&D or never ventured far from it, what may seem innovative (or corrupted) in later editions of D&D, by comparison with early D&D editions, is often really just material imported from other early role-playing games.

[EDIT: I followed this with discussion about another use of Luck points here.]

Comments

  1. As a GM running GURPS, I am a big proponent of players taking Luck, such that I have given a 5-point discount on the base level of that advantage.

    I used to greatly enjoy Fighting Fantasy gamebooks back in the day, and several years ago I ran a campaign with the original AFF books. The Luck stat mechanics there are great for just the reason that you say.

    Comparing the two systems, the benefit of the GURPS advantage is that it can be invoked for (almost) any roll. Meaning that the player can ask the GM to roll 3 times (in cases of a secret "behind the screen" roll) and pick the worst/best result (as appropriate) whenever that roll might impact the PC, such as an enemy attack or wandering monster check. The downside compared to FF Luck, is that the GM still needs to come up with a base target number for arbitrary chance rolls.

    Additionally, where Luck is a core stat, every PC has some measure of it. This may elevate its acceptance as a core mechanic, in the eyes of players and GM. As an optional advantage in GURPS, Luck suffers from being overlooked by players when creating their characters.

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    1. Joseph, I appreciate what you are saying. GURPS was my system of choice whenever I had players who could deal with it, from the time it came out until I stopped playing in the mid-'90s. My AFF-inspired home rules today, with a similar Luck stat, suit my needs now for players who are young or new or both and won't do character point accounting.

      There is another factor that differentiates GURPS Luck from AFF Luck that you prompt me to consider. In the latter, it is not only a diminishing resource, but it can be used as a basis for short-term rewards. I guess that GURPS GMs can let characters advance into Luck traits by experience, making it a reward, but it's not the same, of course, because they are foregoing other possible point purchases, e.g. for the skill advances they'd normally expect.

      In my home rules, players can Test Luck to get advantage on any roll they make (roll an extra D6 and drop the worst of them). Since they roll for wandering monsters when I tell them, they could Test Luck to get an extra die and drop the worst result. It's a drain on one PC's Luck score, which is lopsided in a group, but it's their nickel to spend.

      Maybe GURPS players overlook Luck (no player in my games ever had it, but maybe one) because it's an abstract effect that doesn't positively characterize the PC in a visible way. It also feels like a gamble with a big chunk of points rather than a fixed ability you can rely on--even though every use of every ability entails a gamble. Your discount probably addresses this to a fair degree.

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  2. I was extremely lucky to own the House of Hades fighting fantasy book as a kid.

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  3. Thanks thanks thanks! Your post helped me immensely to understand the origin of morality and the subsequent limitations in the RPG industry! I wrote this post where I left my kudos as well: https://6810kuprpg.blogspot.com/2023/02/original-concept-of-alignment-vs.html

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    1. Thanks! I think you meant to respond to this post: https://lichvanwinkle.blogspot.com/2020/07/d-alignment-system-and-system.html
      Good luck with your game!

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  4. On “luck as meta-game credit to get out of fatal trouble”, Top Secret (1980) had Fame Points and Fortune Points before James Bond. Other pre-WFRP equivalents were Karma Points in Marvel Super Heroes (1984) and Hero Points in DC Heroes (1985).

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    1. Good ones! I actually had an old copy of Top Secret long ago, and those point systems escaped my memory completely. Comments like these that contribute information are the most helpful. Thank you!

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